The Lucas Family 
                             of Leatherhead, later of Kingston Upon Thames, Thames Ditton and Southwark Surrey.
                                                    Also see some interesting Historical facts relating to Leatherhead, Thames Ditton & Kingston upon Thames

                                                      Generation III                                               
                                     Biography


                                                            John Lucas
                                                                [1724-1808] 
                                                                died Testate
                       of Southwark Surrey, formerly of Thames Ditton & Effingham.
                                                        [baptised at Leatherhead]

                                                      Spouse:   Mary Bradford 


                                                                      Index 
                                  Early Life
                                  Marriage to Mary Bradford and Issue [1748] 
                                  Thames Ditton [1765] 
                                  Nathaniel Lucas [1782/6]
                                  Southwark Surrey [1795]
                                  A Legatee in the Will of John Lucass [1797]
                                  Challenge to the Will of John Lucass [1806]
                                  Death & Transcription of his Will [1808] 
                                  Epilogue:  Outcomes for the surviving Children of John Lucas in England 1806.
                                                     Sarah; William; James; John; Mary.

                                                        
                                 Frances Lucas
                                                              [1736-1808]
                                                       Sister of John Lucas
                                  Born Chessington, Surrey, died Mortlake, Surrey.

                                                   Spouse: Thomas Boxall
                                                                  Index
                         Marriage to Thomas Boxall and Issue [1766-1777]
                         A Legatee in the Will of John Lucass [1797]
                         Challenge to the Will of John Lucass [1806] & Death [1808]
                         Epilogue: Outcomes for her children.


                                                      
1724:    John Lucas was baptised at Leatherhead 22nd Sept. 1724, the son of James Lucas & his wife Frances nee Parker.
              His parents moved several times during their marriage.   John and his brothers James [1727 and Thomas [1729
              were baptised at the Family's Ancestral Church at Leatherhead. His sisters mary [1732 and Frances [1736 were baptised 
              4 miles North at Chessington, where his mother had family. His youngest sisters Elizabeth [1738 and Sarah [1739 
              were baptised 8 miles South at Effingham, where his parents remained until their deaths.
 
1738:     During this time his grandfather John Lucas [snr] [c.1664-1739], a wheelwright at Leatherhead, died Testate and now at
               the age of fourteen, John and five of his younger siblings were bequeathed 10 shillings each.  His father and several other
               family members were also Legatees in the same Will.

1746:      At the age of twenty-two John Lucas married Mary Bradford at Effingham on the 19th January 1746.
               Six months later his brother James was buried at the same venue on the 2nd June 1746 at the estimated age of nineteen.

1748:      Evidence of a child born at Effingham between 1747-1748 is implied two years later  in an entry for Thomas Lucas buried at
               this venue on the 22nd March 1748 recorded in the Parish Book as 'Child'.                  
               There is evidence of several children in later recorded in documents for whom there have been no confident baptisms found, namely;
               James, John, William, Sarah, Mary and Ann.  It would be expected that at least some of his children would have been baptised
               at the Ancestral Leatherhead venue, considering John had family there.             

1765:     Fragmented evidence suggesting that the family moved to Thames Ditton by 1765 is implied in the Parish Records; 
              William Luckess baptised 6th September 1765 recorded 'son of John' may indicate a baptism for John's son William.
              [Mary Lucas [nee Bradford] would have been aged around forty-four at this time].  

1766:     The later substantiated marriage of John' sister Frances Lucas to Thomas Boxall at Thames Ditton 16th January 1766.
              is further proof of the family's residence at Thames Ditton during this time.  This couple moved to nearby Kingston upon 
              Thames [2 miles North], where they recorded several Issue.

1766:     Yet further fragmented evidence of John's residence nearby is in the burial nine months later of another possible child, viz;
              'Fanny Lucas buried on the 27th October 1766' at Kingston upon Thames, certainly the namesake of his sister Frances.

Note:     The additional 's' suffix in the Surname begins to emerge in this family. This is also evident at Leatherhead where
               John Lucas aka John Lucass, recorded grandson of John Lucas snr [bef 1665-1738] had also adopted this suffix to his name
               as early as 1758 and appears to have some special significance in the Family not yet resolved.       

1778:     The marriage of his daughter recorded Mary 'Lucass' to John Ford at Thames Ditton on the 7th March 1778 implies that
               Mary was likely born around 1758.     

1778:     Six months later the Parish Records at Thames Ditton reveal another entry in the baptism of Sharlott Luckess daughter of James
               on the 6th September 1778 implying that his son James was recording issue in the area.

1782:     The most intriguing entry at St. Nicholas, Thames Ditton is the marriage of Nathaniel Lucas to Margaret Mitchell on the  
               25th August 1782.  

               There is some evidence to support the hypothesis that John had a son 'Nathaniel' indicted in July 1784 at the Old Bailey
               for theft and subsequently transported to Botany Bay 1788.  A letter written by Nathaniel at Norfolk Island in 1795, addressed 
               to his father, 'Mr. John Lucas, Thames Ditton Surrey', is now held at the NSW State Archives. He sends money to his mother 
               and sends his love to his brothers and sisters.  His grandson in the Colony later called himself James 'Bradford' Lucas.

               However a baptism for James Lucas, recorded 'son of Nathaniel' at Mitcham [7 miles East of Thames Ditton], two years after 
               the above marriage, on the 15th October 1784, may cast a shadow on this Parish Entry, applicable to the latter Nathaniel.
               See: Further information.

1784:     The burial of Mrs. Lucas recorded 'pauper' at Thames Ditton on the 24th March 1784 cannot be ignored as the possible burial
               of John's spouse Mary Lucas [nee Bradford].             

1795:     The aging John Lucas appears to have left Thames Ditton around July 1795 following the death of his granddaughter 
               Caroline Lucas by his later proven son William [see next entry].  He was known to be living two years later at Bandy
               Log Walk, Southwark near London.                 

1797:     It was not until 1797 that the remaining children of John Lucas of Thames Ditton are firmly established.
              The Will of his 1st cousin John Lucas aka John Lucass [subsequently referred to by his latter 'preferred' name]
              reveals the surviving descendants of John Lucas Snr [c.1664-1738].

              John Lucass died without Issue and John and his children and grandchildren, particularly his son William Lucas,  were 
              favoured legatees with several other Family Members and other beneficiaries.  His Estate was fairly considerable, 
              estimated at £5,000.  The surviving children of John Lucas then of Bandy Log Walk, Southwark, formerly of Thames Ditton 
              are mentioned viz;  James Lucas, a Cooper;  John Lucas, wheelwright; William Lucas. [recorded in later documents as a Sawyer]
             'The wife of John Ford' [Mary Lucas], referred to above married John Ford at Thames Ditton in 1778] and Sarah Lucas
             'Spinster'. 
                 
              John Lucas now of Bandy Log Walk was also a beneficiary in the Will, he and each of his children bequeathed the interest of £400
              per annum. Estimating the dividends would be under £40 per year, hardly an amount of great significance in early 19th Century
              England.  John's grandsons by his son William fared better with additional property allocated to them when they came of age.

1806:     In 1806 together with his children, John Lucas now in his eighty-second year, instituted a Proceedings in London
              Challenging certain aspects of the Will of his 1st cousin John Lucass of 1797. The dispute surrounded several items relating to 
              the Administration of the Estate, having passed by succession to John Ede of Leatherhead by this time.  Case dragged on over 
              several years with several depositions by involved Parties. See Biography of John Lucass [1714-1797]

1808:    John Lucas did not live to see the conclusion, he died Testate in 1808 at the age of eighty-four, his Sole Executor and Beneficiary 
              was his son William Lucas.

                                                                                                 The Will of John Lucas                                     
                                                                                             of Benjamin Street, Southwark, Surrey
                                                                                               [formerly of Thames Ditton, Surrey]
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                        In the Name of God Amen, I John Lucas late elder of Benjamin Street in the Parish of St Sepulchre Without,
                        in the County  of Middlesex, Sawyer being of sound disposing mind [inserted - thanks be God for same]   
                        memory and understanding do make this my Last Will and Testament in manner following, that is to say   
                        I give devise and bequeath unto my dear son William Lucas of Benjamin Street aforesaid Sawyer, his heirs, 
                        Executors, Administrators and Assigns all my real and provisional Estate and Effects of  what nature or find 
                        soever, the same may be or consist of together with all Sum and Sums of money that now is or that may be 
                        out or in any way owing at the time of my decease or to which I am or may be in any way entitled unto. And
                        I do hereby nominate and appoint  [inserted – my said son William Lucas] sole executor of this my Last Will
                        and Testament nowby revoking and making void all former and other Wills by me at any time before made
                        and I do declare this to be my Last Will and Testament in witness whereof I have [?] to set my hand seal this
                        sixth day of July in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seven.  The mark X of John Lucas 
                        [small seal]. Signed Sealed Published and declared by the said Testator John Lucas as his Last Will and 
                        Testament in the presence of us who at his request and in his presence have [?] subscribed our names as 
                        witnesses. William Lucas son, John [Bootham?].    

                        This Will was proved in London on the 11th April 1808.    
                        Notes: No Burial has yet been found for John.
                                    Information for his son William can be found below in the Epilogue.
                                    No information was found for John Bootham [Witness].
                                    Administration of a Will is normally granted a few days after the Testator's death.


                                                    Children of John Lucas
Child                                                            Sarah Lucas
                                                                        daughter of John Lucas of Thames Ditton - by inference.
A Legatee in the Lucas Will [1797].
Mentioned in the Challenge to same Will in 1808
Sarah died Testate in 1815 unmarried and without issue.  
Her beneficiary was her niece Eliza Lucas the daughter of her brother William. 
Eliza was impaired in some way and Sarah's Will directed her Estate to her brother  specifically for the maintenance 
her niece Eliza during her life. 

                                                                                          WILL OF SARAH LUCAS
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         This is the last Will and Testament of me Sarah Lucas formerly of Oakley Street [Lambeth?] in the County of Surrey 
         but now a resident  of the [?] of the Parish of Saint Ann Soho in the County of Middlesex, Spinster as follows that is to 
         say I give and bequeath all the Estate and Efforts of  what nature or kind soever the same may be [?] possessed of or 
         entitled to at the time of my decease, to my brother William Lucas of Benjamin Street in the Parish of Saint 
         Sepulcher -without in the said County of Middlesex to hold the same to him the said William Lucas his Executors and 
         Advisors Interest whatsoever, that the said William Lucas, his executors and advisors shall and will pay and apply the 
         same and the Interest and dividends thereof to the maintenance of my Niece Eliza the daughter of the said William Lucas
         in manner as he shall think most fit and advisable and after the death of my said Niece to pay and apply the remainder 
         if any to my Nephews the sons of the said William Lucas who may be living at the time of the death of my said Niece, 
         share and share alike and I hereby appoint my said brother William Lucas sole executor of this my Last Will and 
         Testament in Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this nineteenth day of July in the year of Our Lord
          one thousand Eight Hundred and Twelve. [signed] Sarah Lucass [small  seal]. Signed sealed published and delivered by 
          the said Sarah Lucas the Testatrix as her last Will & Testament in the presence of us who in her presence, at her request
          and in the presence of each other have subscribed our names as Witnesses hereunto [signed] ? Cliffords [?], 
          Richard Coskins?  22 8 Bridgeman Street. 

This Will was Proved at London on the 11th April 1815.
No Burial has been found for Sarah to date.
Child:                                           William Lucas       
                                                                        son of John Lucas of Thames Ditton - by inference.
William Lucas married Sarah [nee unknown] around 1782/3.  Occupation: Sawyer.
He and his wife Sarah recorded seven children at Thames Ditton for a period of ten years between 1784-1794 of whom six survived infancy.
During this time in 1790 a mention of a sole 'Lucas' , recorded on a list for the 1st Edition of 'The Voyage to Botany Bay' written by   
Arthur Philip, the then Governor of the newly settled Sydney Cove in the South Seas.    This may be linked to his assumed to be the 
brother of Nathaniel Lucas, one of the first convicts to be transported to the new Colony.  


Following the death of their youngest daughter Caroline, an infant, at Thames Ditton in 1794 William and Sarah, with their remaining
six children, moved to Southwark near London where they recorded a further two daughters, both died in early childhood.  His father 
John Lucas was residing with him, later recorded of 'Bandy Log Walk', Southwark.


William was a Legatee in the Will of John Lucass in 1797, the 1st cousin of his father with several other family members.  He received 
the Interest of 400 per annum outright without improviso. His sons were well favoured in the Will.     


William with his children were listed as Plaintiffs in the Challenge to the same Will in 1806.  William may be the same 
William Lucass [note suffix] buried at St. Thomas, Southwark 9th December 1817.  His address at death was   St. Thomas's Hospital, 
however this entry is now doubted.

Issue;  
Child 1:  Eliza Lucas:  Born 6th Sep. 1785, Baptised 25th Sep. 1785 at Thames Ditton, Surrey, 'daughter of William & Sarah' 
                                       - Eliza appears to have been physically or otherwise impaired in some way.
                                       - At the age of twelve, she was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, her share of the Estate was attached to
                                          several other beneficiaries whereby at their respective deaths their portion of the Estate would fall to Eliza and
                                          her siblings.
                                      - At the age of twenty-one Eliza was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated
                                         primarily by her father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family.
                                      - At the age of twenty-seven Eliza was the main beneficiary in the Will of her Spinster Aunt, Sarah Lucas in 1812,
                                        in which her Aunt provided for Eliza's care and maintenance for her life and at her death the residue to fall to
                                        her surviving siblings.                                        
                                        [Eliza may have been moved to Leatherhead in the care of a Family Member and the same Eliza Lucas who was
                                         buried at Leatherhead, unmarried and without issue 12th November 1820 at the recorded age of 34yrs
                                        [i.e. born approximately 1786] however the relevance of this entry is not certain].

Child 2: John Lucas: Born 30th Sept. 1787, Baptised 28th Oct. 1787 at Thames Ditton, Surrey, 'son of William & Sarah'
                                     - At the age of ten John was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of his paternal grandfather.
                                       As the eldest son of his father William Lucas, John was bequeathed the Testator's house after the death of the then
                                       occupant and the rest of his share of the Estate was attached to several other beneficiaries whereby at their respective
                                       deaths their portion of the Estate would fall to John and his siblings in equal shares.
                                      - At the age of nineteen John was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated
                                        primarily by his father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family.
                                     - Although no marriage or recorded baptism have been found attributed to him, he appears to have married Sarah
                                        [nee unknown] and had issue.
                                      - He was recorded living in London with his children in the 1851Census;
                                       1851 Census:  Address: Wilderness Row Clerkenwell, St. John Finsbury London
                                                                Frederick Lucas, Head, unmarried, age 30, Gutter Porch Dealer, born Westminster, St.Clements.
                                                                John Lucas, Father, widower, aged 63yrs, late a timber merchant, born Thames Ditton Surrey. 
                                                                Henry Lucas, brother, unmarried, age 26yrs, Mercantile Clerk, born Middlesex, Bethnal Green.
                                                                Sophia Lucas, sister, unmarried, age 37yrs, housekeeper, born Westminster, St. Johns London.
                                      -  His Entry in the 1841 Census has proved elusive.                                        
                                         However wife & two children were found living at Ashley Crescent, St. Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex;
                                                                Edmund Shepherd, Head, age 35yrs, timber merchant.
                                                                Henry Lucas, age 15yrs, Clerk, born in County [see above 1851 Census]
                                                                Sarah Lucas, age 50, Independent, not born in County. [died by the 1851 Census]
                                                                Sophia Lucas, age 25, Independent, born in County. [see above 1851 Census]
                                                                Emma Lucas, 20yrs, Independent, born in County. [married living with spouse by 1851]
                                                                Margaret Lucas, age 15,  Independent, born in County. [married living with spouse by 1851] 
                                                                No relationship to the 'Head' of the house was provided in this Census.     

Child 3:  William Lucas: Born 11th April  1789, Baptised 10th May 1789 at Thames Ditton, 'son of William & Sarah' 
                                      - At the age of eight, William was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of 
                                        his paternal grandfather.
                                        As the second son of his father William Lucas, William was bequeathed the Rites of a house at Leatherhead
                                        after the death of the then occupant and the rest of his share of the Estate was attached to several other
                                        beneficiaries whereby at their respective deaths their portion of the Estate would fall to William [the younger]
                                        and his siblings in equal shares. 
                                     - At the age of seventeen William was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated
                                        primarily by his father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family. 
                                     - William has not been found in later Census Material.

Child 4:   Philip Lucas: Born 10th August 1790, Baptised 5th Sept. 1790 at Thames Ditton, son of 'William & Sarah' 
                                     - At the age of seven, Philip Lucas was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of 
                                        his paternal grandfather.
                                       As the third son of his father William Lucas, Philip was bequeathed rites of a house at Leatherhead after the
                                       death of the then occupant and the rest of his share of the Estate was attached to several other beneficiaries whereby
                                       at their respective deaths their portion of the Estate would fall to Philip and his siblings in equal shares.
                                     - At the age of seventeen Philip was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated
                                        primarily by his father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family.
                                     - Philip has not been found in later Census Material.
                                     - Philip was not found in later Census Material.

Child 5: Thomas Lucas: Born 23rd January 1792, Baptised 19th Feb 1792 at Thames Ditton, 'son of William & Sarah'
                                      - At the age of five, Thomas Lucas was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of 
                                        his paternal grandfather.
                                        As one of the youngest sons of his father William Lucas, Thomas was bequeathed a dwelling house at Fairfield, near
                                        Leatherhead, one of two, the second of which was bequeathed to his brother Joseph.
                                        The rest of his share of the Estate was attached to several other beneficiaries whereby at their respective deaths their
                                         portion of the Estate would fall to Thomas and his siblings in equal shares.
                                      - At the age of fourteen Thomas was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated 
                                         primarily by his father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family.
                                     - Thomas was not confidently found in the England Census.

Child 6:  Joseph Lucas: Born 30th March 1793, Baptised 28th April 1793 at Thames Ditton, Surrey, 'son of William & Sarah'
                                      - At the age of four, Joseph Lucas was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of
                                        his paternal grandfather.
                                        As one of the youngest sons of his father William Lucas, Joseph was bequeathed a dwelling house at Fairfield, near
                                        Leatherhead, one of two, the second of which was bequeathed to his brother Thomas.
                                        The rest of his share of the Estate was attached to several other beneficiaries whereby at their respective deaths their
                                         portion of the Estate would fall to Joseph and his siblings in equal shares.
                                     - At the age of thirteen Joseph was named as Plaintiff in the Challenge of the same Will in 1806, initiated
                                        primarily by his father and paternal grandfather with several other adult members of the Family. 
                                     - There was one Joseph Lucas recorded at St. Andrew (above the Bars), Holborn, London in the 1841 Census;
                                        recorded aged 47, a glass-cutter, Noted NOT born in the County of Middlesex. He recorded no family.

Child 7:  Caroline Lucas: Born 11th May 1794, Baptised 7th June 1794 at Thames Ditton, 'son of William & Sarah' 
                                     - Caroline Lucas was buried at Thames Ditton 5th May 1794 recorded 'Child'.

Child 8:   Elizabeth Lucas: Baptised 18th Nov. 1795 at St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey, 'daughter of William and Sarah'
                                    - This child does not appear to have survived infancy - not mentioned in subsequent documents.

Child 9:   Mary Hannah Lucas: Baptised 5th April 1797 at St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey, 'daughter of William & Sarah' 
                                    -  As an infant, Mary Hannah was an implied beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of 
                                       her paternal grandfather.
                                    -  She was mentioned in the Challenge of the same Will in 1808 - deceased
                                    -  During this time it was recorded that her father William took steps towards Administration of her Estate
                                        in relation to her assets derived from the previously mentioned Lucass Estate.
                                    -  Mary Hannah died between the ages of 0 and 9 years.
Child                                                                                     James Lucas
                                                                        son of John Lucas of Thames Ditton - by inference.   
Occupation Cooper.  
James may have recorded the baptism of a daughter Charlotte Lucas at Thames Ditton 6th September 1778 
implying he was born before 1757.  
He was Legatee in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of his father.  
He was bequeathed the use of the Testator's House until the Legatee's death.  He was also bequeathed the 
Annual Interest from £400 outright.   
James was not mentioned in the subsequent challenge of the same Will in 1806.   
He was not found in the England Census. No further information.
Child                                                                                     John Lucas
                                                                          son of John Lucas of Thames Ditton - by inference.  
Occupation Wheelwright  
John was mentioned in the Will of John Lucass 1797, the 1st Cousin of his father.  
He was bequeathed the Annual Interest from £400 outright.   
John was not mentioned in the subsequent challenge of the same Will in 1806.   
He was not found in the England Census. No further information.
Child                                                                                     Mary Lucas
                                                              aka Ann Ford
                                                                      daughter of John Lucas of Thames Ditton - by inference.  
Mary Lucass [note suffix] married John Ford at Thames Ditton on the 7th June 1778.  
The couple remained at Thames Ditton for around four years, recording the baptisms of their two eldest children.  
They then moved to Mortlake by 1786 where their subsequent five children were born. [see below]   
Mentioned initially as 'Sarah', she was a Legatee in the Will of John Lucass [1797] as sister of William [she was aged 45 yrs].  
Mary's spouse John Ford with children John, Joseph, Ann & Charlotte aka Harriet were named 'Plaintiffs' in the Challenge   
to the same Will [1806]. [Mary then aged 54yrs]                                                                                
Mary was around 43yrs at the birth of her youngest child and had a child bearing span of 14 years.  
Mary Ford [nee Lucas] aka Ann Ford is assumed the same Ann Ford buried at Mortlake 8th February 1829 recorded 
aged seventy-one [alteration to prior entry] [i.e. born c/1758]

Issue;  
Child 1:  Charlotte Ford b. 12th Aug. 1781 at Thames Ditton, Surrey, 'daughter of John &Mary'
                  Under the name Harriett Lucas she married Thomas Simpkins 5th October 1800 at St. Luke, Chelsea, London.
                  Charlotte was a beneficiary in the Lucass Will [1797]. [16yrs]
                  She changed her name at some point before her marriage and was noted in the challenge of the above Will as
                  'Harriet Simpkins 'otherwise Charlotte Ford'.[Age 25yrs]
Child 2:  Ann Ford born 24th July 1783, Thames Ditton, Surrey, daughter of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas]
                   She was a beneficiary in the Lucas Will [1797] [age 14yrs]
                   She was named as a Plaintiff in the Challenge to same Will [1806]  [aged 23yrs]
Child 3:  John Ford baptised 5th Feb 1786 at Mortlake Surrey son of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas]
                  John was a beneficiary in the Lucas Will [1797]   [aged 11yrs]
                  He was mentioned as one of the Plaintiffs in the Challenge [1806]  [aged 20yrs]
                  He is very likely the same John Ford in Military Service, served 10th Dragoons from 1805-1816 recorded born Mortlake,
                  discharged 1816 at the age of twenty-eight.
                  Another Document:  Sun Alliance:  Insurance Policy; Date 18th November 1822.
                  - Insured: John Ford, Brick Stables, Mortlake Surrey, Gent. [National Archives, Kew - Online].
Child 4:  Richard Ford baptised 29th June 1788 at Mortlake Surrey, son of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas]
                  - not mentioned in any documents.
                    Assumed the same buried either 1790 or 1794 at Mortlake.
Child 5: William Ford baptised 14th Nov. 1790 at Mortlake Surrey, son of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas];
                   Buried 18th January 1792 at Mortlake.
Child 6:   James Ford baptised 5th May 1793 at Mortlake Surrey, son of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas];
                 - Was not mentioned in any documents.
                    No burial was found at Mortlake.
Child 7:   Joseph Ford baptised 10th April 1796 at Mortlake Surrey, son of John Ford by his wife Mary [nee Lucas];
                 - Joseph  was a beneficiary in the Lucas Will [1797]   [aged 1 yrs]
                   At the age of ten, He was mentioned as one of the Plaintiffs in the Challenge [1806]  [aged 10yrs]

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                                                               Frances Lucas
                                                                     [1736-1808]
                                                            Sister of John Lucas of Thames Ditton  
Frances Lucas [aka Fanny] was baptised Chessington 5th Feb. 1736, the daughter of James Lucas [1694-1772] & his wife Frances nee Parker.
Fanny Lucas married Thomas Boxall at Thames Ditton 16th January 1766.  [age 34yrs]  
She was Beneficiary in the Lucass Will [1797]. [age 61 yrs]  
She was a Defendant in the Challenge to the Lucass Will [1806]  
Fanny lived at Kingston Upon Thames and later moved near her married niece Mary Ford at Mortlake.  
Fanny Boxall nee Lucas was buried at Mortlake 29th December 1808, est. aged 72yrs.  
Issue;
Child 1:  Fanny Boxall: Baptised 8th  March 1769 at Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey.
                Buried at Kingston 16th October 1769 'child of Thomas'  
Child 2:  Elizabeth Boxall:  Baptised 15th April 1770 at Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey.
                Buried at Kingston 10th March 1774 'd.o. Thomas'
Child 3:  Sarah Boxall: Baptised  23rd February 1772 at Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
                Buried at Kingston 7th September 1772 'd.o. Thomas'  
Child 4:  Margaret Boxall;  Baptised 9th October 1774 at Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
                Burial not found but there are indications that Margaret died.
Child 5:  Thomas Boxall: Baptised 10th December 1775 at Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey.
                Thomas was a beneficiary in the Will of John Lucass, 1st Cousin to his mother. 
                Thomas Boxall was noted on the Challenge to the Will of  John Lucass in 1808.
Note: 
Fanny was aged thirty-nine at the birth of her youngest child -  childbearing span; 6 years.